The 5 a.m. Genealogist & DNA Theorist : October 2025

The SULLIVAN family & The SKAGGS

The Mysterious DNA of Thomas Sullivan & his unknown wife:

Welcome! Today we are going to look at the DNA of Thomas Sullivan (Barren county, Kentucky) and his wife. Could they be connected to the Skaggs family? I also take a look at some of the other families living around Thomas. We want to find out as much as we can about Thomas Sullivan and his wife even if it involves a process of elimination. We also want to investigate why their grandson, Alfred Sullivan, has a male descendant who has Skagg's Y-DNA R-BY44771 and NOT Sullivan Y-DNA.

A Background refresher on Thomas Sullivan & family.

In my previous post, "Seperating the TWO Thomas Sullivans", I went over the facts surrounding Thomas Sullivan, who was part of the Mill Creek Baptist Church, a.k.a Mulkey Meeting House, located in what was Barren County, Kentucky, current day Monroe County, Kentucky. I show proof researchers have confused him with a Thomas Sullivan in Anne Arundel, Maryland, married to William Wood's daughter, Sarah Wood. I share the court documents, proving that the Thomas Sullivan of Anne Arundel, MD, died in 1810. In his estate, it states that he owed money on the late William Wood's land. Also, his wife, Sarah, hands over administration duties to her son, William.

With the undeniable proof that the Anne Arundel, MD Thomas was dead in 1810, we know he cannot be the Thomas Sullivan who was still alive in Barren County, Kentucky.

Thomas Sullivan of Barren County was granted land in 1798 and became a member of the Mill Creek Baptist Church. He lived in Barren County until 1815, if not slightly longer. He was also in each years tax records for Barren County and was part of the Cornstalk Militia in 1813. In 1815, Thomas sold his land to Roden Thompson. Previous to 1798, Thomas was living in Cocke County, Tennessee and was a member of the Big Pigeon Baptist Church. In 1820, Thomas is still alive, found in the Wayne County, Indiana U.S. Census, living next door to two of his daughters and their husbands, Charles Vincent and James Compton. Those two daughters have marriage records in the Mill Creek Baptist Church. Both married by Rev. John Mulkey. John Mulkey was the founder of the Mill Creek Baptist Church, he had come from the Big Pigeon Church in Cocke County, Tennessee.

Thomas Sullivan of Barren county, KY wikitree

Sources will be seen as highlighted links throughout of the blog and also listed separately at the bottom of the blog page.

THE DNA RESEARCH

A Large section of the DNA research below was run inside Ancestry.com’s DNA system. That meets the standard of 8 cM and over in matching DNA cousins. Some of my research below also uses Gedmatch to run some DNA matches below the 8 cM threshold. Many researchers believe anything below 8 cM is not reliable data. Some researchers believe you can still utilize lower cM data, if you look for a pattern of DNA in conjunction with other factors. Do all the matches who are lower cM land in the same chromosome and segment areas as one another? Do they land with a higher cM person from this same line? Did these families have close proximity to one another? And so on.

One example of lower cM DNA: Thomas Sullivan’s male descendant via his son, Thomas Sullivan Jr. This descendant did his DNA in Ancestry.com. He does NOT show up as a match to the descendant of Thomas Sullivan Jr’s sibling in the Ancestry database. He falls below their standard cM threshold. However, 2 females from the same Thomas Sullivan Jr. do show up as DNA matches at 10 cM. Does that mean we just toss this Male Sullivan out? Luckily, we have his Gedmatch number. He does indeed match on an area of a chromosome where other Thomas Sullivan descendants land but at a low 6.3 cM. He could still be of value running him on his own to check for Sullivan and related DNA. This is also a good thing to do to make sure the cM isn’t low for an unforeseen reason.

We know Thomas Sullivan’s grandson’s direct male line is Skaggs Y-DNA. We also know the Sullivan and Skaggs families did indeed have close proximity to one another. We are working at a 5th Great Grandparent generational level in which Autosomal DNA naturally drops off and can be unreliable. Again, knowing this we proceed with caution.

Questions?

Could Alfred have been another family member's child they simply adopted? This is something that could happen if a parent were to pass away. Or does Alfred simply have an “N.P.E”? Are the Sullivan’s or Thomas Sullivan’s wife related to the Skaggs or someone that married into the Skaggs line causing the DNA to be shared?

Goal:

Run Skaggs DNA even if it falls below 7cM.

Look for a pattern of DNA.

Decide if you want to consider this something to look into further.

If there is indeed a pattern (the same chromosomes in the same segment areas as one another). Then look at which couples are showing up the most. Does it point to one single couple? If it looks like siblings from the same line, then we need to look at the generation prior to them and so on. If other lines that are not Skaggs land with them, can we find existing genealogically proven lines that might make sense of these families mixing? Or has there been previous DNA studies done linking the two families.

Bottom line is, my goal today isn't to prove the Sullivan’s are related to the Skaggs but to examine if it is an avenue to consider.

So, What do we know about Thomas's grandson,

Alfred Sullivan?

Alfred Sullivan is claimed to have been born 1811 in Barren County, Kentucky, his father is hypothesized to be "Daniel Sullivan" and his mother is "Esther Lytle". In my research, I question what is thought to be known about Alfred's parents. Researchers assumed Daniel Sullivan, found living in Green County, Kentucky in 1805, was Thomas's son and Alfred's father, however, he is not! That Daniel Sullivan married Jane Settle on August 3rd, 1787, in King George County, Virginia. He had his first land grant in Green County, KY, 1805, on Russells Creek. He has records that are easy to follow in Green County and his wife Jane is included in Deeds. So, he is not the man who married Esther, nor is he the age of a son to Thomas. He is the age of a brother or a 1st cousin to Thomas. There are no other mentions of any other Daniel Sullivan in these two counties during this time period. Some have speculated Alfred's father is a Daniel Sullivan found in Vincennes, Knox County, Indiana. That Daniel Sullivan again is too old to be a son of Thomas. That Daniel also has an easily traceable history. He also appears to have had a son Daniel. So the second Daniel would not fit either. So the search for Daniel continues.

Let's talk about Alfred's mother, Esther, she is only seen one time in any record for Barren County, KY. That record is the member list for the Mill Creek Baptist as "Esther Sullivan" date noted as "before 1798". In that church list the same date is written for Sarah Sullivan and Thomas Sullivan. One would assume Esther would be related to Thomas and Sarah in some way. We have never found a single document proving Esther had a maiden name of "Lytle", it is speculation as she had a 2nd great grandchild middle named "Lytle". I was able to find on the opposite side of that grandchild's tree, the "non-Esther" side, the name "Lytle" was used for some middle names. So it would be hard to say what side of the tree that name was coming from. One court document I found could place a Lytle on the scene in conjunction with a Skaggs: An 1803 deed for land along Russells Creek, owned by William Skaggs. Remember Russell creek was also where Daniel Sullivan & wife Jane (Settle) had land. William Skaggs had land once owned by Robert Todd. Robert Todd, was deceased and a group of survey trustees out of Fayette County, Kentucky, that included William Lytle and John Lytle, were assigned. I have yet to find out more about those two Lytle men. In a separate document, I found a Martin Little that married Polly Russell listed on same page that James Compton and Elizabeth Sullivan's marriage is on. I still need to investigate this. Important note: the AI search engine for Familysearch.org is confusing the name "Settle" for "Little".

Now, here is a whopper of a catch I didn't see coming

until I started to look at the DNA.

The descendants of Thomas Sullivan match DNA

to the descendants of

Esther "Lytle" and her 2nd husband, James McMurray.

This DNA was run using matches found inside Ancestry.com’s DNA database and run within Ancestry.com itself. This data meets the standard cM threshold.

How are the descendants of Esther "Lytle" and her 2nd husband, James McMurray, matching DNA to the descendants of Thomas Sullivan if there is no male Sullivan DNA? Could Esther have actually been a Sullivan herself? What if everything we thought we knew about Esther was wrong? What if she were Thomas Sullivan's daughter and simply had a Skaggs son? What if there wasn't actually a husband Daniel? Who started the Daniel Sullivan theory anyway? Or do the Thomas Sullivan descendants simply match a part of McMurray's line or a line that married in to the children of Esther, or is Esther a Lytle and they match that line?? I mean it is a real mystery that I will continue to relentlessly unravel.

Below:

One of the Esther "Lytle" and James McMurray descendants and

their DNA match to 2 of the Thomas Sullivan descendants in Ancestry.com

THE DNA CHART of THOMAS SULLIVAN

Below are the Descendants of Thomas Sullivan that I was able to locate matching DNA to. Some are from Gedmatch and some of them were found in Ancestry.com's DNA. Three from Ancestry DNA unfortunately do not have Gedmatch kits to run.

DNA match names are covered for privacy.

Thomas Sullivan, is a 5th Great Grandfather for most of these descendants, and we are using Autosomal DNA for this research. Some of the DNA cM value is low. I would like to attribute this to the genetic range of this DNA. However, we really don't know every detail about Thomas's life, could some of his children be half siblings?, etc. Are there any non-paternal events "N.P.E's" happening?, etc.

Let's take a look at:

the Skaggs links to the Sullivan family without DNA

Thomas Sullivan sold his land in Barren County, Kentucky to Roden Thompson. That deed was witnessed by Samuel Marrs. According to Wikitree, Samuel Marrs had been married to the sister of Roden Thompson, Lydia Thompson. Lydia had passed away in 1814. In Nov of 1815, Sarah Sullivan was granted money in the support of Samuel Marrs heirs. Roden and Lydia were the children of Archibald Thompson and Mary (Elswick) Thompson. Archibald's two sisters, Mary and Lucy Thompson married Skaggs brothers, Henry and Charles. The Skaggs brothers are carrying the same Y-DNA as Alfred Sullivan's male line. This does not mean one of those brothers are his father but it does mean someone in their family line is. Archibald Thompson kept a diary, in it he has the Skaggs family and also "Jeams Cumpton". I believe "Jeams Cumpton" is James Compton who married Elizabeth Sullivan, Thomas Sullivan's daughter.

James Compton, Thomas Sullivan’s son-in-law:

James Compton married Thomas Sullivan’s daughter, Elizabeth Sullivan, June 18, 1800 in Barren County, Kentucky. Many researchers do not seem to know who James Compton’s parents are. I found a court document in Barren County, dated: 19 Feb. 1796. In this Indenture, James Compton of Green County, Kentucky volunteers and has his mother’s consent to be an apprentice of Eli Bull. James will learn the trade of spinning wheel making. Signers: Eli Bull, James Compton and Margaret Aston (Margaret is James Compton’s mother, who researchers claim has the maiden name of Reamer) Witnesses to this Indenture are: William Aston (Margaret’s 2nd Husband), Joshua Phipps & Esther Phipps.

I believe the James Compton from the Indenture is the same James Compton who married Thomas Sullivan’s daughter. The fact that Roden Thompson bought Thomas Sullivan’s land, Roden’s father, Archibald Thompson, kept a diary that included the Skaggs and Compton families. The Comptons and the Skaggs married into the Thompson family. Also, according to some researchers, a Margaret “Peggy” Compton married David Skaggs, son of Henry Skaggs and Martha Thompson, the aunt of Roden. In Archibald’s diary he notes the following: In Jan 1802 Richard Cumpton made a loom for Roseanny Thompson. Catty Cumpton (Compton) married Ratliff Thompson 1802. (Margaret Aston & Wm Aston give ok to marry. )

After James Compton marries Elizabeth Sullivan, he is found on land near Henry Skaggs on the East Fork of Barren River, on the tax list for Jun 1806 for Barren County, Kentucky.

Below is an interesting bio for James Compton's sister, Margaret Reamer Compton Skaggs Cannon, named after her mother.

In her findagrave

the following was written:

“Margaret (Peggy) Raemer Compton was born between 1758-1760 in Virginia. She was a daughter of John Compton and Margaret Raemer. She married David Skaggs abt 1787 in Russell County, Virginia. There were 8 children born to this marriage.

1815 Tax List of Green Co., Kentucky, Margaret Skaggs, 6 horses, total taxable value - $100

1820 Census of Green Co., Kentucky, Margaret Skeggs (next door to her son, Richard),

2 white males 10 - 16 (sons John C. & unknown), 1 white female over 45 (Margaret), 4 persons engaged in agriculture, 8 slaves

1830 Census of Green Co., Kentucky, Peggy Skaggs, 1 white male 20 - 30, 1 white female 40 - 50, 1 white female 50 - 60

1850 Taylor Co., Kentucky Census, Family #245, Margaret Cannon, 90, F, $108, Virginia, Margaret Cannon is living next door to her son, John C. Skaggs. She is 90 years of age, living alone. Household 245.

1850 Tax List of Taylor Co., Kentucky, John C. Skaggs as agent for Margaret Cannon, 27 acres - Pitman Creek - $150, 2 cattle, value under the equalization law - $75, total value - $225

Taylor Co., Kentucky Circuit Bundle #28 1857, Margaret Skaggs Canon vs. Lucinda Skaggs, Exec. of John C. Skaggs.

Margaret Cannon states that she recovered a judgment against John C. Skaggs in 1853 for a note dated 1840. No execution was issued on the judgment and no part has ever been paid. Since then, John C. Skaggs departed this life in Taylor County, leaving a will. Margaret has presented the note to the defendant but she refused to pay it. She had enough assets to pay it.

Lucinda Skaggs states that she knows nothing of the judgment in the petition and she didn't know that plaintiff had ever obtained a judgment until now She states that many years ago, Margaret held a note on her husband, J. C Skaggs and Jesse Roberts. Half of the note was paid by Roberts. The other half was paid by J. C. Skaggs, son of Margaret, for taking care of her, furnishing wood, taking care of the farm of plaintiff, etc.

John took care of Margaret from the time of the note until about Christmas 1853 at which time he moved from the neighborhood. Upon checking the records, she found that no process had ever been served on her husband. It was rendered in 1853. The judgment was fraudulent and void. Margaret was then and still is indebted to her husband much larger than the note. John performed labor for her. She owes him $100 and she is insolvent. Lucinda asks for a transfer of the equity side of the docket to set aside judgment. Margaret Cannon states that she is not and never was indebted to defendant for $100 or any other sum for taking care of her. Margaret states that John C. never took care of her and Jesse Roberts never paid half of the note. She took it to court in March 1853 and the court ordered it paid, but it wasn't. The judgment was not obtained by fraud. No Results given

1860 Census of Taylor Co., Kentucky, District 1, Family #36 Rebecca Blevins, 55, F, real estate - $200, KY MARGARET CANNON, 102, F, VA Nancy J. Blevins, 20, F, KY Robert G. Blevins, 9 months, M, KY Dill Blevins, 22, M, KY

I am rather confident that my GGGGgrandmother, Margaret "Peggy," (ca. 1758-1860) wife of David Skaggs, was also a daughter of John Compton and Margaret Raemer. David Skaggs was the son of the Long Hunter, Henry Skaggs, and his wife, Mary Thompson. This would have made Ratliff Thompson and David Skaggs first cousins - and married to sisters. Margaret "Peggy" Raemer Compton Aston lived to be quite old and I have found where Margaret Skaggs was paid by the Green County court to care for her. This is what led me to believe that this is probably her mother. I suspect that David Skaggs and Margaret Compton married in Russell County, Virginia about 1787. Their son, Henry Skaggs, was married to a Momon in Missouri. Also, one of the sons of David and Margaret Skaggs was named John C. Skaggs. I think his name was John Compton Skaggs...after his maternal grandfather. - Jeremy Johnson

Taylor County Will Book 1, Page 116, March 1857

My son, Richard Skaggs, is to get all of my estate that I am possessed of at my death.

Signed: Margaret (X) Cannon

Witness: James Roberts Jackson (X) Harris Produced to court: 1 October 1860

Recorded: 5 October 1860

[From the files of Russell Perkins 22 Sep 2017.]”

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/183602586/margaret-skaggs

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A Skaggs / McMurray / Odell family link

In 1860, there is a census for Celia Scaggs in Osage Township, Crawford Co, MO

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHZ5-Y21?lang=en

Celia Scaggs surname is seen as Scaggs & Skaggs. She had married James Skaggs in Green County, Kentucky in 8 October 1819. Green county was once part of Barren County, Kentucky, where Thomas Sullivan and his son in law James McMurray once lived. Celia was born in Green County, Kentucky according to Findagrave , it states her maiden name was also Scaggs. As we know, one of Thomas Sullivan's daughters married Gabriel Odell. One of Celia and James Skagg's sons, James Holbert Skaggs, married Julia A. Odell. Julia was the 1st cousin 1x removed of Gabriel Odell.

In the 1860 census below: Celia Skaggs has a McMurray family living with her.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/L5P6-V98

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/9274635/celia-skaggs

James Skaggs was the son of James Skaggs Sr and Nancy Mayes.

On this 1860 census, Celia is head of household.

Sex Female, Age 61, Birth Year (Estimated) 1799, Birthplace: Kentucky, Race: White

In her household:

Thos J Scaggs :

M 18 Missouri

Jas F Scaggs:

M 16 Missouri

Celia Toadvine:

F 16 Missouri

(Celia Toadvine was her Granddaughter)

Henry W Brazziel:

M 22 Indiana

(Henry was adopted by the Skaggs / Scaggs and brought to Missouri.

It is of interest that Henry was born in Indiana.

Our Sullivan & McMurrays moved to Indiana)

James McMurray:

M 27 Kentucky

(This is not our James McMurray, who married Esther Lytle. M.

Could they be related however?)

Sarah T McMurray:

F 6 Missouri

Nancy L McMurray:

F 4 Missouri

DNA run to Celia & James Skaggs decendant via their son Thomas Jefferson Skaggs

Thomas Jefferson Skagg's daughter married a Martin.

Esther "Lytle" & James McMurray's daughter also married a Martin. Are these families related?

Comparing DNA

(PERSON 1. Thomas Sullivan decendant)

and

(PRIVATE PERSON. Celia & James Skaggs descendant

via son Thomas Jefferson Skaggs m. Eliza Evans.)

Hard Breaks Checked for cM (2.0) if GAP is greater than 500000 Basis Pairs.

Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically with an average of 208 SNPs. About 2/3 will occur between 191 and 225.

Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment.

Chr	B37 Start Pos'n	B37 End Pos'n	Centimorgans (cM)	SNPs	Segment threshold	Bunch limit	SNP Density Ratio
2	71,166,840	75,449,983	6.1	199	182	109	0.09
2	83,570,115	101,557,566	6.9	332	202	121	0.07
2	129,007,373	133,949,948	6.6	234	186	111	0.1
14	86,636,646	90,923,749	7.4	247	203	122	0.09

Largest segment = 7.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 27.1cM
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 6.5

Notice where this Skaggs descendant

matches the Thomas Sullivan Descendant:

(Celia & James Skaggs descendant )

Chromosome 2…..71,166,840 - 75,449,983…..6.1 cM…..199 SNP

Chromosome 2 (Run to Kit 1 & 2's Thomas Sullivan's daughter Nancy Sullivan's line)

Kit 10…2….71,754,430 - 74,114,397….3.1…244….(Male Sullivan via Thomas Sullivan Jr.)

Kit 11…2….72,220,565 - 75,012,327….3.7….270…(Thomas Sullivan’s son Thomas Sullivan Jr )

Kit 13…2….73,194,599 - 75,466,043….3.1….331…(Thomas Sullivan’s son Thomas Sullivan Jr)

Other Skaggs Descendants match to Kit 1 & 2 Nancy Sullivan line:

Skaggs Descendant 1A….Female. Has James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown's daughter Lydia Skaggs m. Mathias Harmon

2….71063942 - 75738954….6.8 cM….236

Skaggs Descendant 1B Male. Has John “Gourdhead” Skaggs, Son Zachariah Skaggs & Ruth Elkins daughter, Rachel Skaggs married William Lester.

2….71374272 - 75396009….5.7 cM….595

Skaggs Descendant 1C kit managed by Skaggs Descendant 1B AncestryDNA Male. Has John “Gourdhead” Skaggs, Son Zachariah Skaggs & Ruth Elkins daughter, Rachel Skaggs married William Lester.

2….71374272 - 75387834….5.7 cM….189

Skaggs Descendant 1D 3rd managed by Skaggs Descendant 1B Female. Has John “Gourdhead” Skaggs, Son Zachariah Skaggs & Ruth Elkins daughter, Rachel Skaggs married William Lester.

2….71374272 - 76091644….6.7 cM….757

Skaggs Descendant 1E Female. Has James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown's daughter Susannah (Skaggs) Witt

2….71791577 - 75025709….4.4 cM….428

Skaggs Descendant 1F Male. 23andMe. Has James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown son Charles Skaggs who married Lucy Thompson.

2….71826102 - 75449983….5 cM….190

Skaggs Descendant 1G superkit of Descendant 1F Male. Has James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown's son Charles Skaggs who married Lucy Thompson

2….71826102 - 75449983….5 cM….193

Skaggs Descendant 1H Female. Has James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown's daughter Susannah (Skaggs) Witt

2….71986420 - 76941049….6.7 cM….290

---------Next area of matching

(Celia & James Skaggs descendant)

Chromosome 2…..129,007,373 - 133,949,948…..6.6 cM…..234 SNP

Chromosome 2 (Run to Kit 1 & 2's Thomas Sullivan's daughter Nancy Sullivan's line)

Kit 12…2….129,750,233 - 133,787,632…5.4….447 (Thomas Sullivan’s son Thomas Sullivan Jr)

Kit 5….2….130,953,022 - 133,474,892…3.5…200 (Thomas Sullivan’s son Thomas Sullivan Jr)

-----Next area of matching

(Celia & James Skaggs descendant Chromosome 14 @ 86,636,646 to 90,923,749

Cromosome 14 (Run to Kit 1 & 2 Thomas Sullivan's daughter Nancy Sullivan's line)

Kit 8….14….86,033,803 - 89,587,535….4.3….460 (Thomas Sullivan’s son Thomas Sullivan Jr)

Kit 6….14….86,262,326 - 89,410,553….3.6….416 (Thomas Sullivan’s son Thomas Sullivan Jr)

Kit 12…14….89,605,817 - 91,920,877…. 5.6….485 (Thomas Sulliva’s son Thomas Sullivan Jr)

Looking at this Celia & James Skaggs descendant in Gedmatch , they also have two close cousins who share the same Sizemore line. Cousin 1 is 125 cM to this descendant and has Campbell Tolliver Sizemore m. Martha Elizabeth Ross's daughter, Mary Ann Sizemore. Then Cousin 2 is 86 cM to this descendant and has Campbell Tliver Sizemore & Martha Elizabeth Ross's son, William Edward Sizemore.

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Let's take a look at some DNA runs

DNA RUN performed in ANCESTRY.COM

This DNA was run using matches found inside Ancestry.com’s DNA database and run within Ancestry.com itself. This data meets the standard cM threshold.

Set of Base DNA used:

(Person 1)

Thomas Sullivan's descendant via daughter Nancy Sullivan

share 10cM DNA to

(Person 2).

(Person 2's) family tree:

Direct Ancestors:

Lester & Skaggs . Also has a second direct line to Skaggs via Rutha Skaggs daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown. (Maternal side)

Direct Ancestors: Shumate & Martin both Powhatan lines (Paternal side). Those lines include:

Hughes, Grigsby, Redmond, Elkins, Martin, Davis.

There is also a direct Sizemore line not added in chart below.

Bland version of Person 2 tree below:

On Wikitree the Lester Family also married Skaggs and that goes back to Elkins to Richard Bryant & Anne of the Patawomeck https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lester-3938

Person 2's tree is "George Ottis Johnston" whose mother was Jane "Joyce Skaggs"

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Johnston-8105

Below are all the cousins shared

between (Person 1) and (person 2)

Run on Ancestry.com DNA service:

PERSON 3 is 23 cM to PERSON 1 / 23 cM to PERSON 2

The paternal side of Person 3's tree: Trammell, Mohs, Greenwood (Greenwood turns into Hobson), Hewlett, Dickinson, Turner, Culbertson, Burk, Rogers, Merritt.

The maternal side of Person 3's tree: Gibson. Richard Ellis Gibson 1865 Albemarle co, VA - 1938 Covington, Alleghany co, VA married Sarah Katherine Ponton. Also Early Clyde Mitchell 1904 Bedford Co, VA - 1952 Roanoke co, VA married Mary Grace Jonas.

PERSON 4: 18 cM to PERSON 1 - 21 cM to PERSON 2

2 person tree.

Dunn line Alabama, USA

PERSON 5: 16 cM to PERSON 1 / 21 cM to PERSON 2

Featherstone line: Thomas Franklin Featherston / Featherstone 1825 born in Blount Co, AL - died 1894 Glenwood, Pike AR. married Ann A Ponder from Lincoln Co, NC. Also on Paternal side Merritt, Crowe, Hall. Maternal side private.

PERSON 6: 16 cM to PERSON 1 / 24 cM to PERSON 2

Unknown

PERSON 7: 15 cM to PERSON 1 / 20 cM to PERSON 2

……No tree

PERSON 8: 15 cM PERSON 1 / 36 to PERSON 2

Had to work out quick tree. Eads, Cooper, Gillespie. Shoemaker (Henrico co, VA) Burton, Burk, Davis (Note to self: George Ottis Johnston who we seem to get a few cousins to had a sister who married a Gillespie. Could this Gillespie line above be part of that line?) There also was a Shoemaker line part of Osborne who married to Alfred Sullivan's daughter. Could any of that Shoemaker be part of those others?

NOTE to remember: Some of the cousins in this list have Adkins to Cornstalk line. Thomas Bailey Christian Sr (Cornstalk line) married Louisa Harman. Louisa’s mother was Lydia Skaggs daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown. He also had a second wife Mary Caroline Altizer. Also important to note as I am seeing some Gillespie and Blankenship surnames appear that this Christian and Harman family’s children married into those surnames.

PERSON 9: - 15 cM PERSON 1 / 26 cM to PERSON 2

…. has Private Tree

PERSON 10: - 13 cM PERSON 1 / 28 cM to PERSON 2

….no tree

PERSON 11: 13 cM to PERSON 1 / 23 cM to PERSON 2

Paternal side - Thompson / Higgins

Milton L Thompson 1841 TN - bef 1890 / Mary Ann Crail. Henry Thompson 1806 NC - 1865 Lawrence Co, TN. / Jane Osborne. Is this the same Osborn line that is on this person 11's Maternal side?

Mat side: James Atchley married Mary Ann Malone. James Atchley’s grandfather Elijah married Sarah Osborne. Sarah’s mother was Margaret DENTON. B. 1771 VA died 1851 Davies Co, IN. Sarah’s father was Solomon Osborne. Sarah married another time to Moses Shumaker. They had a son James Shumaker to married Lola Sullivan. Lola is the daughter of Alfred Sullivan (whose line carries Skaggs Y-DNA).

PERSON 12: 13 cM PERSON 1 / 27 cM to PERSON 2

……has Private tree

PERSON 13: 12 cM to PERSON 1 / 29 cM to PERSON 2.

Disconnected Tree.

Private Fischer from Charleston, WV. married LaCasse

The Fishers married Jackson. Other surnames Saul.

PERSON 14: 12cm to PERSON 1 / 26cm to PERSON 2

On Paternal side has Conner to Foster to Adkins / Baker. Adkins to Cornstalk. Thomas Bailey Christian Sr (Cornstalk line) married Louisa Harman. Louisa’s mother was Lydia Skaggs daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown. He also had a second wife Mary Caroline Altizer.

On Maternal side is Pharris (Phares/ Ferris) / Leath. Has Samuel Pharris. 1742 Shenandoah VA married Elizabeth Leath. This is Thomas Mantooth's father-in-law from the Big Pigeon Baptist church that Thomas Sullivan was a member of.

PERSON 15: 12cm to PERSON 1 / 26 cm to PERSON 2 .

Disconnected Tree

Paternal side: Poteat, Weddington, Overcash.

Maternal side: Graham married Mills. Mills line goes back to Starr, Rial, Compton. Graham married into Ritchie. Maternal side endogamy. 2x Mills line.

Lipe married Seaford. To Note: One of Thomas Sullivan's daughters married a Compton.

PERSON 16: .12 cm to PERSON 1 / 20 cm to PERSON 2

Paternal side Oliver / Sundahl.

Maternal side: Tafoya / Trujillo

PERSON 17: 12cM to PERSON 1 / 72 cM to PERSON 2

… Private tree

PERSON 18: 12 cm to PERSON 1 / 33 cm to PERSON 2

private tree. Can see it is Campbell family, is this same from previous matches??

PERSON 19: 11cM to PERSON 1 / 23 cm to PERSON 2

…Private tree

PERSON 20: 11cm to PERSON 1 / 79 cm to PERSON 2

Johnson / Belcher line: Mernie Belcher’s Grandmother was Hannah Blankenship b 1863 Wyoming WV married Milton Peter Belcher. (Pat side).

Maternal side is direct to George Otis Johnson 1792 -1896 and his mother Jane "Joyce" Skaggs.

PERSON 21: 11 cm to PERSON 1 / 40 cm to PERSON 2

… No tree

PERSON 22: 11cm to PERSON 1 / 21cm to PERSON 2

On Mat side: Private Ferris b. Pulaski KY d. Lincoln, KY. Married surname Lay.

Also on Mat side Kidd line.

PERSON 23: 11 cm to PERSON 1 / 64 cM to PERSON 2

… no tree

PERSON 24: 10 cm to PERSON 1 / 36 cM to PERSON 2

Pat side: Ewald, Corder, Hudgins married Dillen (VA), Hammons

Hudgins line goes back to John E Hudgins 1781 Cumberland, Cumberland, VA died 1839 married Nancy Shelton (some have her surname Street) b. 1764 VA died 1838. Also in tree Zachariah Morris who married an Osborne.

Mat side: Stephenson, White, Blackwell, Black, Perry, Burnett, Clark, Frost.

PERSON 25: 10 cM to PERSON 1 / 47 cM to PERSON 2

…. 1 person tree

PERSON 26: 10 cM to PERSON 1 / 22 cM to PERSON 2

Pat side: Adkins married Vance. Akins goes back to Christina Elkins b. 1811 Logan, WV, Died 1880 Lincoln, WV. Names as part of this branch: Elkins, Sims, Vance a 2nd time, Howard, Parting.

Also on Pat side: a Shelton line.

Mat side: Has a Peak line that goes back to Blevins. James Blevins 1740 Va married Elizabeth Margaret Ward. Also on Mat side: A Hodges line that begins as BISHOP. A Midkiff line that goes back and branches out to Pedigo, ELKINS, Adkins, Parsons. (Note: There was an Adkins line that also married into George Ottis Johnston’s line.) Also Adkins has a line to .... Amongst these matches above and below is an Adkins to Cornstalk line. Thomas Bailey Christian Sr (Cornstalk line) married Louisa Harman. Louisa’s mother was Lydia Skaggs daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown. He also had a second wife Mary Caroline Altizer.

PERSON 27: 10 cm to PERSON 1 / 25 cM to PERSON 2

Pat side: Gaggley, Fox, Cook, Carroll, Eurgites, Kwadras

Mat side: Brasher married Clark. Brasher is Brashear. MD to AL, to SC. A Doss lines that goes back to Mary Blankenship born 1790 died 1877 Alabama married William Doss. Go back to Blankenships out of Henrico co, VA. Also on Mat side following down Clark line. There is an Anderson line that goes to Cocke Co, TN. That line marries into Dorsey and Gorman. There was an Anderson in Barren County, Kentucky that had a deed with Thomas Sullivan's son in law. NOTE to remember: Amongst these matches above and below is an Adkins to Cornstalk line. Thomas Bailey Christian Sr (Cornstalk line) married Louisa Harman. Louisa’s mother was Lydia Skaggs daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown. He also had a second wife Mary Caroline Altizer. Also important to note as I am seeing some Gillespie and Blankenship surnames appear that this Christian and Harman family’s children married into those surnames.

PERSON 28: 10 cm to PERSON 1 / 24 cm to PERSON 2

Pat side: Adams

Mat side: JOHNSON.

That line goes back to GEORGE OTIS JOHNSON 1792-1876 and his mother Jane "Joyce" Skaggs.

PERSON 29: 10 cm to PERSON 1 / 27 cm to PERSON 2

Pat side: Private

Mat side: Private until grandparents. German lines.

PERSON 30: 10 cm to PERSON 1 / 23 cm to PERSON 2

Pat side: Primmer. No other people listed in tree. Looking up on Ancestry. Has Odell married Primmer. Those Odells are a brick wall. I would gather due to the shared cM , those might be the Odell's that married into Thomas Sullivan's line.

PERSON 31: 10cm to PERSON 1 / 38 cm to PERSON 2

Pat side: Luna, McCleary, Mills (VA), Fairman

The Mills line to Nancy DUNCAN born 1791 Culpepper Co, VA died. 1821 Logan co, KY. Could this be the Duncan line that married to the Lesters? The Lesters who married Skaggs also married into a Duncan line.

Mat side: has a The White line goes to John W White b. 1789 Somerset Co, PA d. 1859 Ripley co, IN. married Hannah (findagrave just has surname White). They had a son named Isaac Goebel White. Some trees have John W White’s mother as an unknown Goebel. This White line also married into Grubbs who married into Cherry and Hodges (Cumberland co, PA) Thomas Sullivan's son married a Goble and so did his sister, Nancys, daughter. Might be Goble connection here?

PERSON 32: 10 cm to PERSON 1 / 21 cm to PERSON 2

Pat side: Wilson 1868 KY

Mat side: Has Sellings line is Sillings out of VA.

PERSON 33: 10 cm to PERSON 1 / 26 cm to PERSON 2

GEORGE OTTIS JOHNSON / JOHSNTON’s direct to Jane "Joyce" Skaggs

PERSON 34: 10 cm to PERSON 1 / 21 cm to PERSON 2

… No tree

PERSON 35: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 40 cm to PERSON 2

… No tree

PERSON 36: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 31 cm to PERSON 2

On maternal side has the Luna / Mills / White branch that was reviewed earlier in document. This is probably the daughter of PERSON 15.

PERSON 37: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 31 cm to PERSON 2

… Private tree

PERSON 38: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 24 cm to PERSON 2

Pat side: Edge and Thomas

Mat side: Frye line did marry into Farris (Pharris). Other names Overby, Gillespie, Smith, Robinson. Henry Gustavus Gillespie 1840 - 1915 married Sally A Thompson 1846 Tazewell, VA d. 1918 Jeffersonville, Tazewell VA. Could this be part of Archibald Thompson’s line that in turn married Skaggs? (Note: Frye surname: George Ottis Johnston’s grandmother married 2nd time to a George Frye Sr b. 1725 VA d. 1793 Montgomery, VA. There was a daughter listed for George Frye SR of Mary Frye who married a Sullivan. No husband’s first name listed. I have not figured out that Sullivan. Also to note the Gillespie name above. George’s sister married into a Gillespie line.) Amongst these matches above and below is an Adkins to Cornstalk line. Thomas Bailey Christian Sr (Cornstalk line) married Louisa Harman. Louisa’s mother was Lydia Skaggs daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown. He also had a second wife Mary Caroline Altizer. Also important to note as I am seeing some Gillespie and Blankenship surnames appear that this Christian and Harman family’s children married into those surnames.

PERSON 39: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 38 cm to PERSON 2

Direct to GEORGE OTTIS JOHNSTON 1790’s - 1860’s and his mother Jane "Joyce: Skaggs.

PERSON 40: 9cm to PERSON 1 / 109 cm to PERSON 2

Has Dorcas Naomi Lester’s mother Sarah Louise Johnston / Johnson daughter of GEORGE OTTIS JOHNSTON. George’s mother was Jane “Joyce” Skaggs. The Lester line also has marriages to Skaggs. Also has a Rose line that married Sizemore.

PERSON 41: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 24 cm to PERSON 2

Has White line. Same White line as cousin previously listed.

PERSON 42: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 140 cm to PERSON 2

Has: Dorcas Naomi Lester, Theodore Franklin Rose. Again lines to Lester / Skaggs / Sizemore / GEORGE OTTIS JOHNSTON to Jane "Joyce" Skaggs.

PERSON 43: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 32 cm to PERSON 2

… Private Tree

PERSON 44 : 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 23 cm to PERSON 2

Pat side: All Private

Mat side: John W Baker and Anna Bryant b. 1809 TN.

Down one of the lines I had to work out on maternal side, there was a Ray line goes back to Nancy Jane Johnson 1861 Clay co, MO daughter of Aaron Johnson 1840 KY d. 1873 Parkville, Platte, MO. married Martha Jane Large b. 1845 Lawrence, KY d. 1868 Morgan co, MO. Her parents were William L Large and Nancy Thompson b. 1822 KY d. 1860 MO. daughter of Jeremiah Thompson / Martha Eleanor Spencer.

PERSON 45: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 125 cm to PERSON 2

Dorcas Naomi Lester & Theodore Franklin Rose. Goes to George Ottis Johnston and his mother Jane "Joyce" Skaggs.

PERSON 46: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 25 cm to PERSON 2

Pat side: New York and England

Mat side: Conner, Moore, Foster, Webber, Baker, Nibert, Cave.

Foster has Samuel David Foster B:1797 Monroe, West Virginia D:1877 Tennessee married Rachel Adkins 1799 Virginia, United States

D :1866 Anderson, Tennessee

NOTE to remember: Amongst these matches above and below is an Adkins to Cornstalk line. Thomas Bailey Christian Sr (Cornstalk line) married Louisa Harman. Louisa’s mother was Lydia Skaggs daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown. He also had a second wife Mary Caroline Altizer. Also important to note as I am seeing some Gillespie and Blankenship surnames appear that this Christian and Harman family’s children married into those surnames.

PERSON 47: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 39 cm to PERSON 2

… no tree

PERSON 48: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 21 cm to PERSON 2

Tree not worked out.

PERSON 49: 9 cm to PERSON 1 / 39 cm to PERSON 2

No info

PERSON 50: 8 cm to PERSON 1 / 27 cm to PERSON 2

locked tree

PERSON 51: 8 cm to PERSON 1 / 27 cm to PERSON 2

Pat side: Bandy, Christian. Both Pat and Mat out of Tazewell, VA. Christian line marries into Yost to Gerald to Pearris. That goes back to Mitchell / Belcher / Clay / Frogley. The Christian line itself goes to and turn into Cornstalk. Thomas Bailey Christian (Cornstalk) b. 1770 Botetourt County, Virginia d. 1853 Sinking Waters, Tazewell Co.,Virginia married Mary Caroline Altizer. Thomas Bailey Christian also married Louisa Harman. Louisa’s mother was Lydia Skaggs daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown.

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Who else was Thomas Sullivan around that might be potential DNA family for he and his wife?

So, we know there is shared DNA between the descendants of the Skaggs families and the Thomas Sullivan descendants. We know Alfred Sullivan's line is Male Skaggs Y-DNA. The other Thomas Sullivan descendants share DNA to Skaggs as well but also show a Sullivan connection to Darby Sullivan III who married Anne Fugate and other Sullivan lines, what does it mean for them? Is there something we don't know about the Sullivan line or is this a female line for them that is adding the DNA. It could represent a connection on Thomas's wife's side.

We know Thomas was probably from Virginia due to his land grants, likely he was born there. In an 1850 census, one of Thomas's children states they were born in Virginia. The first record we have for Thomas is in 1793, when he has a letter of recommendation to join the Big Pigeon Baptist Church, in what is now Cocke county, Tennessee. Thomas Sullivan's surname was seen in church records spelled several ways, including: Sulevent, Sylliven and Swilliven. One of Thomas's daughter's, Nancy Sullivan married Gabriel Odell, Gabiel's father was also a member of the church.

In 1793, A committee was formed to discuss Thomas Sullivan's admittance into the church "as there was some difficulty amongst some Members" upon consideration. The committee consisted of: Samuel Phares (Phares also known to be spelled Pharris, Ferris), William Lillard, Joshua Kelley, Jonathan Netherton, George McCown, Peter Fine and Abram McKay. We do not know what the difficulty was in the decision, however, he was admitted as a member.

Samuel Phares (Pharris/Ferris) becomes the person of interest here, as his son-in-law, Thomas Mantooth / Monteith, nicknamed "Cherokee Tom", is also in the church. We have found matching DNA between Thomas Mantooth's descendants and the Thomas Sullivan descendants. So what do we know about Thomas Mantooth? I am going to use information here given to me by the past tribal historian of the Patawomeck Tribes, Bill Deyo. I have not personally done this genealogical work myself. I had reached out to Mr. Deyo after doing this DNA research, as he seemed to be the one who knew the most about Thomas Mantooth and Sullivan lines.

In the email Mr. Deyo states: "Ann Fugate would have a double kinship to Thomas Mantooth's family, as she had descents from Thomas Pettus and Ka-Okee through both parents." "Thomas Mantooth signed his name as "Manteeth" in the agreement with Samuel Phariss to marry his daughter in 1795. Thomas was the son of John Monteith, son of Thomas Monteith and Phyllis Gallop (whose mother, Elinor Bryant, was a granddaughter of Keziah Arroyah)."

Thomas Sullivan is found several times in Big Pigeon church minutes, with no mention of his wife but there is a RACHEL SWILLIVEN as a member. I do not know more about Rachel. There is no Sarah Sullivan listed that I have found yet. Sarah doesn't show up until the Mill Creek Baptist Church membership.

Some families in the Big Pigeon Baptist Church, there at the time Thomas was a member, have ties to Darby Sullivan III and Ann Fugate. Some of those, we have found matching DNA to. That DNA seems to point back to a Fugate and a Bryant line. Those lines are said to be part of the Pamunkey / Patawomeck tribes in Virginia. I have found there is triangulation of DNA between the Thomas Sullivan descendants to Pamunkey enrolled tribal members and descendants of the Pamunkey / Patawomeck lines. There are Amerindian markers in some of those matching DNA triangulated areas. One area on chromosome 1 also houses a Clovis Anzick 1 DNA connection for some of the descendants of Thomas.

F999919 (Clovis Montana 12.5ky) 1 11029478 - 12183245 3.2 cM 233

The Sullivan line appears to have come from Ireland, so that line is not the source of Indigenous DNA. So this would be a female line connection. Ann Fugate is said to be descended from Anne of the Patawomeck per William Deyo. There was a DNA study done pertaining to Anne of the Patawomeck proving Anne existed and was indigenous. From the book: Anne of the Patawomeck: Wife of William Redmond & Dr. Richard Bryant, Descendants of the, famed or fabled, Ka-Okee, A Case Study, Part 1 by Crystal Toronyai Davis .

Youtube video by Crystal on Anne of the Patawomeck's DNA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv1hPS4Leso

A comparison below of the direct MALE SULLIVAN via Thomas Sullivan’s son Thomas Sullivan Jr and the descendant of Thomas Sullivan’s daughter, Nancy Sullivan, using Dodecade World 9 admixture tool in Gedmatch.com.

RED markers represent Amerindian DNA.

They both carry the same marker on Chromosome 3 at 194M.

The Nancy Sullivan descendant is in the Native American DNA Study of the Virginias headed up by Crystal Toronyai Davis. That area of Chromosome 3 is considered an extension of Anne of the Patawomeck’s marker. Anne was married to Richard Bryant.

These are the direct ancestors of Thomas Mantooth.

I have done much more work on the Amerindian markers, I will share in a future post.

Who are the

families living around Thomas Sullivan in Barren County, Kentucky.

Some families are: Mulkey, Pedigo, Anderson, Elkins, Marrs, Welch, Depp, Vincent, Settle, Sullivan, Harlan, Skaggs, Thompson, Mayfield, Burke, Gist, McMurray, Pennington, McMurray, Vincent, Compton

GEDMATCH:

Chromosome 8 below. Base DNA used to match was Thomas Sullivan's daughter Nancy Sullivan's descendant:

Chromosome 8 run segment area: 38M to 60M

Run to Kit 2

Thomas Sullivan's daughter, Nancy Sullivan descendant via her daughter Sarah, as base to match:

Cousin 1I.....8.....38657695 - 52233408.....5.5 cM.....286

James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown's daughter Lydia (Skaggs) Harmon

Cousin 1J.....8.....40177668 - 55120946.....7.9 cM.....241

James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown's son Charles Skaggs who married Lucy Thompson daughter Nancy Skaggs

Cousin 1K.....8.....40786645 - 55879686.....7.8 cM.....372

Jeremiah Skaggs & Rebecca Mayes son William Thomas Skaggs m. Mary Harrison

Kit 10.......8.....41447470 - 54333688.....6.3 cM.....256

Male descendant Sullivan has Thomas Sullivan’s son Thomas Sullivan JR

Kit 7:.....8.....41697078 - 55824925.....7 cM.....311

Thomas Sullivan’s daughter, Nancy Sullivan

Cousin 1L.....8.....49209652 - 55513201.....5.3. cM....240

James Skaggs / Rachel Unknown to son Charles Skaggs & Lucy Thompson to their daughter Nancy Skaggs

Cousin 1M: .....8.....49209652 - 55879686.....5.6 cM.....248

John “Gourdhead” Skaggs, Son Zachariah Skaggs & Ruth Elkins daughter, Rachel Skaggs married William Lester.

Cousin 1N.....8.....49851538 - 54277247.....4.4 cM.....569

James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown's daughter Susannah (Skaggs) Witt

Cousin 1O:.....8.....51071742 - 54540154.....4.1 cM.....508

James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown to son Henry Skaggs m. Mary Thompson

Cousin 1P.....8.....55222654 - 60024449.....5.2 cM 242

James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown son Charles Skaggs who married Lucy Thompson

Now let's run the Kit 7

the Male descendant of Nancy Sullivan via her son Job Odell,

to see if they too show Skaggs matching within this area of chromosome 8.

Cousin X1 Female…..8….41684488 - 53318644….4.3 cM….407 SNPs

Joseph Meredith and Nancy Skaggs daughter of Charles Skaggs & Lucy Thompson. Charles is son of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown.

Cousin X2 Female…..8….41693425 - 52496221….3.1 cM….348 SNPs

Martha Lester daughter of William Lester & Rachel Skaggs. Rachel is daughter of Zachariah Skaggs & Ruth Elkins.

(Kit 2)…..8….41697078 - 55824925….7 cM….311 SNPs

Thomas Sullivan’s daughter Nancy Sullivan m. Gabriel Odell

(Kit 3) …..8….41697078 - 55824925….7 cM….307 SNPs

Thomas Sullivan’s daughter Nancy Sullivan m. Gabriel Odell.

Cousin X5 Female Sullivan …..8….43387474 - 54160702….5.1 cM….469 SNPs

Has no tree. @121 cM to Cousin X5 is a Sullivan cousin who is the direct Sullivan line from Stafford County, Virginia. This is Randolph Sullivan born. 1869 Stafford Co, VA and married first cousin Mary Louise Sullivan. Both lines lead back to Darby Sullivan & Anne Fugate.

Cousin X6 Male …..8….49193586 - 54160702….4.5 cM….758 SNPs

Has Lydia Skaggs m. Mathias Harman Sr. Daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown.

Cousin X7 Female……8….49387740 - 54399129….4.7 cM….803 SNPs

Elizabeth Skaggs m. John Hankins. Elizabeth is the daughter of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown.

Cousin X8 Female…..8….50054112 - 53838071….3.7 cM….357 SNPs

Nancy Skaggs m. Peter DeSpain. Nancy was daughter of Henry Skaggs and Mary Thompson. Henry was son of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown.

Cousin X9 Male…..8….50306276 - 54858494….4.6 cM….781 SNPs

Claims James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown

Cousin X10 Female…..8….51067154 - 54277280….3.9 cM….333 SNPs

2 lines to Skaggs. One line is Joseph Meredith and Nancy Skaggs daughter of Charles Skaggs & Lucy Thompson. Charles is son of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown. The second is: Rev William Benjamin Skaggs son of Aaron Skaggs & Sarah Lyon.

Cousin X11 Female…..8….52579964 - 54578517….3.1 cM….399 SNPs

Thomas Sullivan’s son Thomas Sullivan Jr

Cousin X12 Female …..8….52616195 - 55274324….3.3 cM….238 SNPs

No tree. Has a cousin @99.7cM with William Lester & Rachel Skaggs line. The Bishop & Elkins line.

Cousin X13 Female……8….55269940 - 58952723….3.9 cM….519 SNPs

Nancy Skaggs m. Peter DeSpain. Nancy was daughter of Henry Skaggs and Mary Thompson. Henry was son of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown.

Cousin X14 Male…..8….55365190 - 58864437….3.7 cM….459 SNPs

Richard Elkins Jr & Mary Gallop. Richard is son of Richard Elkins SR & Elizabeth Bryant.

Cousin X15 Male…..8….55483583 - 58602000….3.3 cM….636 SNPs

No tree. Has a cousin @129 cM that is a Bryant. @63cM has a Mozingo cousin direct male of the Mozingo line.

Third RUN—---

This run for chromosome 8 is using the only direct Male Sullivan we have in Gedmatch of Thomas Sullivan via his son Thomas Sullivan Jr.

Cousin Y1 Male…..8….40499961 - 53729375….6.2….285

Has Lucinda Bryant, the daughter of Aaron Bryant SR and Elizabeth Mantooth. Aaron Bryant’s father was Tarlton Bryant. Elizabeth Mantooth’s Grandfather was Thomas Mantooth “Cherokee Tom”, was married to Elizbeth Pharris. Both from the Big Pigeon Baptist Church.

Kit 2 Female…..8…..41447470 - 54333688….6.3….256

Thomas Sullivan’s daughter Nancy Sullivan m. Gabriel Odell. Descended from their daughter Sarah.

Kit 3 Female sister of Kit 2…..8….41447470 - 54333688….6.3….255

Thomas Sullivan’s daughter Nancy Sullivan m. Gabriel Odell. Descended from their daughter Sarah.

Cousin Y2 Male…..8….41670952 - 52522352….3.1….779

Has a William Stringfellow who married Sarah Dorothy Elkins from King George Co, VA. Their son William JR married Rebecca Martin. They also have Alexander Mulkey m. Sarah Baldwin’s daughter Mary Catherine Mulkey m. John Griffith. Remember Thomas Sullivan was with John Mulkey who was part of the Big Pigeon Baptist Church and the Mill Creek Baptist Church.

Cousin Y4 Female…..8….41704910 - 53342616….4.3….456

Has Susannah Skaggs daughter of Henry Skaggs and Sarah Lacefield. Henry Skaggs was the son of Richard Skaggs who was the son of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown.

Cousin Y5 Male …..8….42344238 - 52930270….3.1….439

Has 2 Bryant lines. One is Sally Ann Bryant daughter of William M Bryant and Nancy Byrd. William M Bryant was the son of Aaron Bryant Sr and Elizabeth Mantooth. The second Bryant line: Lula Sarah Bryant and William Augusta Dunn. They do not list her parents. Also has a Mary Jane Case married William Marion Griffin Sr of Cocke Co, TN. Keeping track for the Case surname was found in the Big Pigeon Church as well.

Cousin Y6 Male…..8….42853271 - 54460873….5.5….513

Has Nancy Skaggs m. Joseph Meredith. Nancy was the daughter of Charles Skaggs and Lucy Thompson. Charles was the son of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown.

CousinY7 Female…..8….48124855 - 53323786….3….400
Has James Mantooth m. Mary Burke He was the son of Thomas Mantooth and Elizabeth Pharris.

Cousin Y8 Female …..8….49047878 - 53431744….3.1….349
Has John Cannon Skaggs son of David Skaggs & Margaret Hoover. David was son of Henry Skaggs & Mary Thompson. Henry was son of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown.

Cousin Y9 Male …..8….49209652 - 54057346….4.3….740
Has Rachel Skaggs daughter of Henry Skaggs and Sarah Lacefield. Henry Skaggs was the son of Richard Skaggs who was the son of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown.

Cousin Y10 Male …..8….49861225 - 55074884….4.8….510
Has James Harden Bryant son of Tarlton Bryant (Cocke co, TN). Also has Caleb Odell and Rachel Clevenger. Thomas’s daughter Nancy Sullivan married into the Odell family. Also Wood who married Grigsby.

Cousin Y11 Female …..8….49881987 - 53509414….3….304
Elswick line. John Elswick & Elizabeth Johnson. John’s parents were Jonathan Parris Elswick and Susannah Radcliffe. Jonathan was the brother of Mary Elswick that married Archibald Thompson. They were the parents to Roden Thompson who purchased Thomas Sullivan’s land. Also Archibald’s sister’s married Skaggs brothers.

Cousin Y12 Female…..8….49881987 - 54344100….4.5….407
Skaggs. One line is Joseph Meredith and Nancy Skaggs daughter of Charles Skaggs & Lucy Thompson. Charles is son of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown. The second is: Rev William Benjamin Skaggs son of Aaron Skaggs & Sarah Lyon.

Cousin Y13 Female …..8….49881987 - 54041206….4.1….667

Elizabeth Skaggs married John Hankins. Elizabeth was daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown.

Cousin Y14 Female …..8….49881987 - 54041206….4.1….666

Has Darby Sullivan III and Anne Fugate’s son Francis Sullivan m. Newton

Cousin Y15 Male …..8….50252962- 54160702….4.1….652

Has a Vincent line. Also has: Nancy Skaggs m. Joseph Meredith. Nancy was the daughter of Charles Skaggs & Lucy Thompson. Charles was the son of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown.

Cousin Y16 Female…..8….50259111 - 53829203….3.6….567

Has Susannah Skaggs m. Richard Witt Jr. Susannah was daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown.

Cousin Y17 Female …..8….50265730 - 54745864….4.6….413

Has Richard Elkins & Mary Gallop line. Richard was son of Richard Elkins Sr and Elizabeth Bryant.

Cousin Y18 Female …..8….50430756 - 53829203….3.5….550

Has Samuel Wayne Marrs and Francina Bradshaw. The Marrs family was in the Mill Creek Baptist Church along side Thomas Sullivan. Also has Lydia Skaggs m. Mathias Harman SR. Lydia was daughter of James Skaggs and Rachel Unknown.

Cousin Y20 Male …..8….51483551 - 54180915….3.6….510

Has Nancy Skaggs m. Joseph Meredith. Nancy was the daughter of Charles Skaggs and Lucy Thompson. Charles was son of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown

Cousin Y21 Female …..8….51697092 - 55178575….4….634

Has Lydia Bishop daughter of George John Bishop and Nancy Anna Boothe. Also Priscilla Elkins daughter of Richard Elkins Jr and Mary Gallop.

Cousin Y23 Female …..8….51954441 - 54057346….3.2….275

Joseph Meredith and Nancy Skaggs daughter of Charles Skaggs & Lucy Thompson. Charles is the son of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown. Also has a Vincent line.

Cousin Y24 Female …..8….52433074 - 56906068….4.9….442

No tree. Has a cousin @99.7cM with William Lester & Rachel Skaggs line. The Bishop & Elkins line

Cousin Y25 Male …..8….59562087 - 62323556….3.2….568

Charles Skaggs & Lucy Thompson. Charles is son of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown

Cousin Y26 Female ….. 8….59873636 - 62734074….3.3….272

Joseph Meredith and Nancy Skaggs daughter of Charles Skaggs & Lucy Thompson. Charles is the son of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown. Also has a Vincent line.

Cousin Y27 Male ….. 8…60012601 - 62641324…3.1…483

Joseph Meredith and Nancy Skaggs daughter of Charles Skaggs & Lucy Thompson. Charles is the son of James Skaggs & Rachel Unknown. Also has a Vincent line.

Chromosome 8 starting at 41M,

All Ged numbers and user first names private.

Below is some triangulation of DNA

Each person listed below triangulated DNA to the Thomas Sullivan (SR) descendant via his daughter Nancy Sullivan's line.

From Chart above, DNA cousins below match the letters in chart above all on.

Triangulation performed on Gedmatch.com

TRIANGULATION Chromosome 8 starting at 41M: